Rossiiskaya Gazeta
June 21, 2010 [translation from JRL]
"ROLLED-UP SLEEVES" SUMMIT
An interview with Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergei Kislyak
Author: Andrei Shitov
Question: What can you say about the forthcoming Russian-American summit?
Sergei Kislyak: It is going to be an important visit indeed, the first official visit of our president to the United States. President Dmitry Medvedev visited the United States on many occasions already but they were not official visits.
Agenda of the visit is known. The presidents will discuss a broad range of issues including arms control, of course. Still, there is more to the bilateral relations between Russia and the United States than arms control. There is a colossal potential for economic contacts. Russia's interest in innovations and advanced technologies is well known as well. I reckon that the presidents will discuss it all.
Question: The Americans sometimes call the forthcoming meeting an innovations summit...
Sergei Kislyak: Yes, this is going to be an important component of the summit. All the same, it is wrong to assume that innovations are all the presidents will be discussing.
Question: What will it be - a discourse over strategic cooperation or something more specific than that?
Sergei Kislyak: First and foremost, we have a presidential commission. Its working groups comprising ministers and deputy ministers already discuss specific projects. I'm convinced that the report on the work of the commission to be presented to the heads of states will become a solid foundation of our strategic cooperation. It is strategy that the presidents will be discussing.
Question: Will the report be published?
Sergei Kislyak: Work on the report continues and diplomats have a rule: they never make declarations on whatever is not complete yet. In any event, a good deal of information on the progress made by the commission will be made available to general public.
Question: Will any economic documents be drawn along with the report?
Sergei Kislyak: Some points will be made but I cannot say in what form, yet. It might be a joint statement, for example.
Question: What about political documents then?
Sergei Kislyak: Not every summit inevitably ends in adoption of some major document, you know. The presidents seem to trust each other which is fine. It enables them to listen to each other and to pool efforts rather than work at cross purposes. It is more than an exchange of opinions. It sets the tone and atmosphere of political relations between our countries.
Question: Well, perhaps, you could say something more definite about the expected results of the summit?
Sergei Kislyak: Lots of matters are on the agenda. Some of them will be addressed and solved, others will not. There are traditional items like nonproliferation and war on terrorism, there are others that are important too. There are no rules saying that every summit ought to end in a joint statement on every item on the agenda. What counts is that work continues. We would like to see the Americans participating in innovation programs in Russia, and I hope that the summit will encourage it.
There are trade talks as well. It will be wrong to assume that they will be concluded in time for the summit. Work continues. In any event, it is going to be a working summit meaning that the presidents will be addressing genuine problems rather than going through the motions for the benefit of public relations.
Question: How would you appraise the current state of the Russian-American relations?
Sergei Kislyak: I came to the United States after the Georgian aggression against South Ossetia. Relations between our countries at that time were probably the worst ever since the end of the Cold War.
The new Administration came to the White House with its own views on international affairs and, among them, relations with Russia. The situation started changing, and changing fast. Barack Obama suggested a "reload" and he meant it. So did we, for that matter. It is hardly surprising of course considering common challenges Russia and the United States are facing. The "reload" is bearing fruit already. Our relations are more sincere now. Our counties listen to each other.
It does not mean, of course, that we always agree with each other. We do not. What counts, however, is that we discuss whatever we disagree on in a civilized manner.
Question: Does the term "reload" really apply to what is happening in the bilateral relations?
Sergei Kislyak: It was perfect once, when it was necessary to extricate our relations from the tight corner they had been in. The way I see it, the period of "reload" is over now. I'd say that what we are doing now is establishing solid partnership.
Question: What changes in the American approach are particularly important to Russia?
Sergei Kislyak: Signing of the START treaty was quite important an event. It is not the reduction as such that really matters. What matters is that this document demonstrates cooperation between Russia and the United States in strategic stability maintenance. It was made plain by the very nature of the talks and their atmosphere. I hope that both signatories will ratify the document soon.
Readiness of the US Administration to take an unbiased look at the American ballistic missile defense system in Europe is also important. What Washington intends to develop in Europe causes no concerns. Military clarity and stability along our borders improved some. Anyway, the Cold War is over and I do not think that it will ever return.
Question: Has the Russian diplomacy responded to changes in the U.S. policy?
Sergei Kislyak: But of course. We took the "reload" seriously and backed our resolve with specific decisions and programs. Our American colleagues were permitted to ferry their military to Afghanistan via Russia. This is something that would have appeared impossible only recently. We are thinking at this point over what else we can do to help the Americans because a lot of matters that have an effect on our security are related to Afghanistan.
I do not think that our attitude toward America changed greatly from what we were prepared to do for it in the past. I'd say that the Americans finally saw the error of their ways and began working on amelioration of our relations.
Question: Are there issues Russia and the United States prefer to stay away from?
Sergei Kislyak: As I said already, we do not agree on absolutely everything. South Ossetia is one such issue. Predictable security of Europe is another. The Americans like to give us chapter and verse on democracy. On the other hand, they themselves are not exactly lily-white from the standpoint of human rights.
No, I do not think that there are any issues our countries are afraid to approach. There are issues that are priorities because they are important for both our countries.